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Post by Gators5220 » 20 Nov 2012, 20:14

Man that thing is crazy, words don't do it justice, nice build... =D> =D> =D>
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my build http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic ... 21&t=25185

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Post by PSG-1 » 20 Nov 2012, 20:38

Gramps50 wrote:Nice looking build from the video you would never guess that it was home built. From the 2 threads you and PSG-1 both have great fabrication skill when it comes to the conversions.

What's the advantage of using a jet ski motor as opposed to just using a jet outboard?


Sorry for the extremely late reply, just noticed that someone else had posted in this thread.

As for your question..... here's some advantages and disadvantages to each one:



With an OB jet, you still have the weight of an engine hanging off the transom, with an IB jet, the weight is slightly forward, making the boat less stern-heavy.




Also, provided that the engine compartment and exhaust system is properly designed, an IB jet is always going to be much quieter than an OB jet. All the OB jets I've heard were as loud, or louder than, a jet ski.




With an OB jet, the water is drawn up vertically, and then turned 90 degrees through the exit nozzle. As anyone who understands the dynamics of water flow, etc knows, anytime you make a 90 degree angle, you lose some efficiency and overall pressure.

With the IB jet, the water is drawn through a tunnel, at a very slight angle, and exits straight through, it doesn't make any turns, therefore, it is a more efficient means of transferring power.


An OB jet's intake grate still protrudes slightly below the edge of the transom, where the IB jet is flush with the hull.


On the other hand, an advantage of the OB jet, is that it can be trimmed out of the water, which is a good thing if you operate in salt, because with the IB, the pump is constantly sitting in salt water. Also, the vertical design of the OB allows all water in the cooling passages to drain out when not in use.

With an IB jet, the horizontal configuration of the engine allows water to stand in those passages, and in the water box (muffler) which means if you're running in saltwater, you either have to haul out every day, or you need a specialized drive-on dock known as a 'sport port' where you can get the pump out of the water, to flush it. Or, you can flush it while it's sitting in the water, as long as you let it idle, and don't rev it. In this manner, garden hose pressure exceeds pump pressure, so, only fresh water is flowing to the engine. But I don't like this method, as you can't "blow out" the water by revving it like you can when it's out of the water.



And finally, with the OB jet, you're still dealing with a conventional steering system, which is 3 turns lock-to-lock, unless there's some specialized system I'm not aware of.

With the IB jet, you can buy a helm that's 270 degrees lock-to-lock, which is what my boat uses, or, for even sharper response, they also make a 135 degree helm. With steering that quick, you can spin the boat 180 degrees in its own length at 30 MPH. I just don't see an OB jet with a 3 turn lock-to-lock teleflex helm having that type of steering response.
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Post by Ranchero50 » 22 Jan 2013, 17:10

Thanks guys, I think PSG covered it pretty well. For me, it was all about cost, compromise and desire. I couldn't afford an outboard setup, had a 1448 and a bunch of parts and the desire to make something cool with the tools I own.

So here we are, several years later with a simple boat that does exactly what it's supposed to. It was built for reliability and enjoyment. I still haven't finished it yet, carpet is still rolled up hanging from the shed ceiling. Again, it's tucked away waiting for warmer weather.

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Post by New River Rat » 12 May 2013, 10:13

Jamie, I followed this build over on RS.com and have kept up with you here. I am very impressed (and envious) of what you have done. Great work!!!
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Post by Ranchero50 » 28 Jun 2013, 23:00

She lives again. Went out last night for a short test and tune with a fresh tank of gas and no fishing gear. We had a blast, truly acted like a big jet ski. Doughnuts, spins, wake jumping and flat out hauling butt.

Tonight we took it out again for some top water fishing and had a great time. Last years 11" small mouth class are over 12" this year and very aggressive. None were on beds yet but they aren't far off.

No pics or video, just use your imagination.

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Post by PSG-1 » 28 Jun 2013, 23:34

Ranchero50 » 33 minutes ago wrote:She lives again. Went out last night for a short test and tune with a fresh tank of gas and no fishing gear. We had a blast, truly acted like a big jet ski. Doughnuts, spins, wake jumping and flat out hauling butt.

Tonight we took it out again for some top water fishing and had a great time. Last years 11" small mouth class are over 12" this year and very aggressive. None were on beds yet but they aren't far off.

No pics or video, just use your imagination.

Jamie
Glad to hear it's still running strong. You put a lot of time and effort into your boat project, and did an outstanding job!
ALUMA-JET project:
http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic ... 21&t=22023


Fishing, jet skiing, target shooting, jet-boating, and even a little oyster harvesting with Larry The Cable Guy.
Watch it all right here:

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Post by Ranchero50 » 05 Jul 2013, 15:46

Here's my current trailer setup. My river is very shallow at the ramp during late summer so I set the trailer up to get the boat safely wet and dry.

First time I pulled the boat out I went off the end of the ramp and ended up ripping the axle out from under it. I ended up making a wider axle and flipping the axle from under the leafs to over them. I also welded on a set of 'skis' so when I back off the end the trailer will ride down and up the 'skis' without damaging anything.

The fenders are cut from the bottom of a 55 gallon poly drum. The boat slides across them and they act as side guides if needed.

My bunks are simply 1/2" x 4" x 24" chunks of cutting board screwed unto pine 2x4's. My flotation pods aren't supported but the original transom is. I kept the original back roller in place and use it to guide the boat up the centerline of the trailer. The mid roller is gone. I replaced with with a 3/4" x 1" 8" piece of UHMW that acts as a foot stop for my 1/4" x 18" x 6' catwalk so I don't slip off the end while pulling the boat on the trailer by hand. I still have the front and bow rollers and can pull this 600lb hull onto the trailer easily. The big catwalk is just held on with the original U bold that holds the tongue to the trailer frame and where the rear UHMW screws to the cross brace. The side of my hull is 18" off the road like this.

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To splash the trailer I just back off the end of the ramp and the momentum carries the boat away from the trailer. If I'm solo I'll put the bow rope around the winch stand and pull it up on shore when I pull the trailer back out. To get it out I just back until the back of the bunk is wet, then push the boat off and walk out on the trailer. Let the current carry it down stream over the bunks and while using the rear UHWM as a foot rest pull the hull up on the bunks. I'll use the U bolt and front roller as foot rests to pull the boat further unto the trailer. I can almost do it one handed.

If you want I'll try to get some better pictures this evening when we get it wet.
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Post by Ranchero50 » 13 Jul 2013, 13:55

Finally got off my duff and bought a cover for the boat. Picked up this fellow for $70, it's supposed to be 600 denier but it feel more like 300d. I fit like a shower cap so I invested in $20 worth of 1.5" pvc. I tuend the 'T' fittings in the lathe so the pipe snuggly slips through them. The uprights just slip over the seat posts and I cut another 'T' fitting so it'll sit on the grab rail. I added the angled bar to the trolling motor to give that section a of the cover a peak. It sheds water easily and isn't affected by the wind very much. The boat will be in the shed on the day's I work but sits in the yard when I'm off

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Currently I've washed the hull and plan on painting it once the wet dries. I also want to do some bondo work to the rear and prep that for paint. I have glue for the carpet so maybe next week the kid and I will get to fit that it.

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Post by PSG-1 » 14 Jul 2013, 00:26

Looking good! I have a cover for my boat, but seldom use it, although I should. Not a problem if I park it in the driveway, but in the backyard, I have cedar trees, and they tend to make a horrible mess in the boat. But then again, the boat rarely sits idle for more than a month, so, no need to keep it covered.

Good idea on using the PVC frame for your cover, as the one drawback of a cover is that it tends to hold water to the point that you can't even lift it off the boat because there's so much water in it. The PVC framework will let the water run right off. On that note, I think I'll start using some PVC cross members, rigged in an arch, to keep my boat cover from becoming a swimming pool.

On the note of trailers, I'm about to do a trailer swap for my boat, gonna pick up an aluminum frame trailer tomorrow morning and modify it for my boat. Needs to be 20" narrower, and several feet shorter, and only 1 axle instead of 2. But hey, it's in great shape, and the price is right at just 300 dollars.

Beats the heck out of 1600 dollars for a brand new aluminum trailer for a 16 ft johnboat. Right now, I'm using a galvanized trailer, it's not junkyard material yet, but it has some rusting issues. Still in good enough shape for a re-work, so, I'm trading it out to my buddy that's selling me the aluminum trailer. He re-works trailers and sells them to make a little money, and he ran across this aluminum frame trailer, which turned into a headache for him, due to trying to re-work it to its existing configuration.

But for my purposes, it's going to work just fine. Once the aluminum trailer is done, it'll be the last one I'll need for that boat.
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Fishing, jet skiing, target shooting, jet-boating, and even a little oyster harvesting with Larry The Cable Guy.
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Post by Ranchero50 » 19 Jul 2013, 08:26

Made a solo trip last night as the kid was still at my buddies farm. Without his 180lb self up front the boat really feels like it's floating a lot more at speed and isn't quite as stable when goofing off. Had a great time, went swimming and had a blackhawk fly over at 1.5x tree height following the river.

I've been working on the padding for the carpet. Trying to find a glue that'll work well with the foam floor mats and the carpet. Kind of a PITA but it feels nice when I walk on them and is very quiet.

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Post by RiverBottomOutdoors » 19 Jul 2013, 09:44

Slipping the PVC over the seat pedestals......genius! Why the hell didn't I think of that????

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Post by Ranchero50 » 19 Jul 2013, 11:29

RiverBottomOutdoors » Today, 09:44 wrote:Slipping the PVC over the seat pedestals......genius! Why the hell didn't I think of that????
Yep, sadly it took 2 trips to Lowe's and a trip to Home Depot looking for fittings before I simplified my A frame design to a 'T' post design. The posts are only 33" and I'm around 5' between posts so the whole contraption is pretty stiff and lifts off easily. I doubt I'll ever glue it together as it doesn't move around with the tight slip fits.

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Post by PSG-1 » 19 Jul 2013, 11:56

I've found that just about ANY project requires a minimum of 2 trips to Home Depot. :LOL2:
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Fishing, jet skiing, target shooting, jet-boating, and even a little oyster harvesting with Larry The Cable Guy.
Watch it all right here:

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Post by Ranchero50 » 08 Aug 2013, 18:03

Been spending the day tinkering with finishing the front deck and figuring out how I'm going to get my foam insulation under the front deck framework and then hold it there. Seems a couple cans of great stuff in a garbage bag and I could be done but that seems too simple...

I checked the shipping date on my roll of carpet and it's from 2010. Yep, might have been a bit premature in ordering it way back then.

I'll take some pics later, the deck looks the same except I should lose anymore fish under the floor.

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Post by catmansteve » 08 Aug 2013, 18:39

The regular Great Stuf will soak up water eventually, which is a pita to deal with down the road (ask me how much fun it was to get the waterlogged foam out of my Tracker.) However, they do make a minimal expansion Great Stuf for insulating door and window jambs, I think it may be closed cell foam, so that might work
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