Anyone pouring their own soft plastics?

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Post by onthewater102 » 03 Sep 2019, 13:50

I've been using molds I find on the cheap on Ebay as well as a handful of really nice ones that I've accumulated that can be ordered new through www.basstackle.com

For instance, this is the mold I'm using to make the chatter trailers:
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Anyone pouring their own soft plastics?

Post by onthewater102 » 03 Sep 2019, 13:50

I've been using molds I find on the cheap on Ebay as well as a handful of really nice ones that I've accumulated that can be ordered new through www.basstackle.com

For instance, this is the mold I'm using to make the chatter trailers:

https://www.basstackle.com/6008_Chatter_ ... 8-kj-1.htm
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Post by senkosam » 03 Sep 2019, 15:00

Jim, too bad there aren't forum sections devoted to lure craft design and of the few that do have them (crappie.com), few post on them. The one site that is focused only on making different lures is too technical, only discussing what to use and proportions, not design innovations nor lure action or uses. I like you feel very lucky being able to catch fish on what we come up with.

Pouryourownworms.com is my only source for plastisol. (M-F);
Ebay is great for 2-part mold shapes and price; Lurecraft.com for hundreds of cheap silicone rubber molds that do the trick - many have multiple pour cavities for under 20 bucks. They've even legally copied lure designs in mold form that are no longer protected by design patents. If I like a design enough, I'll make a mold.

Dang if the stuff we make doesn't work far better than most same-type lures sold ! Price isn't important - catching fish on lures I make is!
Here are a few I came up with on the weekend (top and bottom lures):
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The body is from an Ebay curl tail grub mold; the tails were added using a candle flame and then using a soldering iron (battery powered) to smooth the seam. The middle stick is the joining of two lures poured from a mold. (The action on a 1/16 oz wacky rigged jig is incredible!...at least fish seem to think so...)

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Post by onthewater102 » 03 Sep 2019, 21:47

I've only tried one frankenbait so far and it wasn't that original a concept. Combined the basstackle.com 736 Craw with their 4" skirt grafted to the back. Comes out as basically an HD hulagrub:

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Post by onthewater102 » 03 Sep 2019, 21:50

I don't have any more of the smoke/pearl fluke bodies other than the one in the pic I added alongside the fish they caught, but they were to color match with these jigs I made as a generic swim jig that I could throw pretty much anywhere (even in the salt) and have confidence that it mimics some type of baitfish in the water body. These were the jig bodies I made some with blades (homemade chatterbait) that got me the smallie in my earlier pictures.

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Here's a sampling of my latest batch. I've got more molds than this, but many are redundant designs in different sizes (swimbaits and senkos especially) but i've also got that bob-tailed trick worm in a 6" (4" pictured) and the flat backed dropshot in a 4" (5" pictured). Lurepartsonline I believe sells that drop shot bait mold that is a $10 silicone top pour mold - anyone with a microwave and a pyrex measuring cup (with the pour handle) can recycle their old tired baits and reform them into something useful.

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A swim jig I made soup to nuts (poured the lead, painted, tied the jig & poured the soft plastic trailer) but for some reason I don't have pictures of the fish it's caught - there have been a LOT on this little one. I think this is a 3/8 oz head wearing a 3.8 trailer with a 4/0 heavy wire hook. I usually make the plastic trailers without salt to add buoyancy to slow the rate of fall.

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I've finally got the hang of the airbrush with the powder paint, so I can do color fades on the heads or wackier color schemes:

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Post by senkosam » 04 Sep 2019, 04:45

Very impressive ! Like the name frankenbait. Kind of a moniker for my inspired creations.
I also have 4 of the molds that produced your pearl lures.

I used to think that ordering soft plastic making supplies was not economical so why bother, but then it occurred to me after a while the advantages and the economy:
1. infinite choice of colors and color combinations
2. more components for frankenbaits (as in the example using a Mann worm tail and a molded grub body)
3. s/h for a few bags of lures is very expensive depending how often I get the urge to buy some. Now I can make a few or many, try new designs and repour those that caught fish.
4. I can copy some lures in plaster, though I recently discovered a super fine mold making substance
5. Never having to worry about a source running out, *a lure being discontinued, color not in stock, delays in shipping, etc. makes it worthwhile
examples:
*Uncle Josh pork frog in #1 and #11 sizes:
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this trailer:
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(at at least my claws don't rip like the original when I mix salt water plastic with regular firm)
another trailer:
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6. most important is discovering lure designs never seen before that catch fish better than most lures made I've used.
examples of originals:
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Mr Twister curl tail cut off the grub and reattached:
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a claw from a craw bait added to a grub body:
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they WORK!
joining grub bodies after the curl tails removed and then wacky or regular rigging them:
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Clear plastic:
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(note the sparkle on the clear stick. I use a soft plastic glue on a surface of the soft plastic lure and roll it in glitter.)

Equally important than the above reasons is finding unique lure actions that catch fish of ALL species. At first you think, no way, until it works and then you see why when watching the lure's unique subtle action profile in the water.
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opinion: believing a lure matches a forage is simply adding a name via an imagined correlation to an animal - an unnecessary step IMO. I'd rather keep is simple by design,
IE. cone tail, claw tail, tapered tips mini stick, spike tail and my
spoon minnow (original was discovered stirring hot plastic with a spoon, leaving a thin film for a tail and dipping the body in the plastic 4x after using a razor to shape it; shiny floor tile now used); the super thin tail quivers when the lure is stationary.
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Post by onthewater102 » 04 Sep 2019, 09:54

I'm trying to find a plastic formula that's more durable. The chatter trailers are fantastic for generating hits, but the plastic I have is lousy at surviving them. I know I need to add a hardener to it, and the sections are actually quite hefty (not like the swimbait boot tails) so I think once I figure out how to toughen it up I should be set.

That's sort of why I got into it in the first place. Fishing in the winter with Keitechs you end up with a bag full of tailless plastics courtesy of the yellow perch, having the ability to melt them down and reform 6 useless bodies into 3 or 4 useful baits rather than pay $1 +/- ea per bait in a new package just made sense. I'll never recover my cost on molds at this point, but as you said, I don't have to worry about running low on a favorite color or size and not being able to source them without paying 3x the cost of the baits in shipping or spending hundreds at a time buying in bulk.

No matter how bad an attempt at creating a color pattern ends up enough black dye and blue flake turns any disaster into something useful.
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Post by senkosam » 04 Sep 2019, 16:25

https://www.pouryourownworms.com/M-F-Or ... rd_c93.htm

This page shows various plastic firmness choices. Salt water plastic may be too firm which is why I add it to regular grade or maybe not.
M-F Inc. plastic mixes easy and has the least odor of any brand I've used after being heated to 280 degrees. Hotter not necessary.
M-F Salt Water Plastic is a formulation for a stronger, tougher and more durable material. Excellent for shrimp tails, salt water worms and all salt water soft plastic lures.

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