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Post by onthewater102 » 04 May 2018, 11:12

Up until now I'd just been interested in recycling used baits that are too chewed up to function, but I'm toying with just pouring my own from fresh plastic going forward.

I assume it's pretty straight forward making baits for summer use, look for more durable formulas and the heat will keep things flexible, but I fish a lot more during the cold water (55 degrees & under) season so I'm thinking I'm needing softer plastic formulas. Anyone out there find a good balance between flexibility and durability for this type of situation?
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Post by handyandy » 04 May 2018, 12:35

I haven't, but it's crossed my mind to. Being I fish a lot of creeks and rivers for smallies sculpins, and helgramites are a favorite of riverine smallies. There are these molds from ukraine that are used for fanatik baits one is a goby one another is the larve mold. Larve is pretty darn close to a helgramite and the goby would make a good sculpin.

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Post by onthewater102 » 04 May 2018, 14:21

I found these for hellgrammites:

3" http://www.basstackle.com/3_Hellgrammite_p/562-kj-2.htm
2" http://www.basstackle.com/2_Hellgrammite_p/563-kj-2.htm

but at $69 or even $49 they are a lot more than the Ukrainian plasti-stone ones. Granted it's an apples and oranges comparison, cnc machined aluminum multi-cavity vs. cnc machined synthetic single-cavity. Instead I bought 50 of the baits on ebay for $15 which should hold me over for a while until I decide if I'm going to use enough to make it worth my while.
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Post by handyandy » 07 May 2018, 09:06

I don't know if I'd ever bother with the paddle tail type soft plastics, I've had good luck with the zoom fluke paddle tail baits. They're cheap enough to not make me think about bothering with making them. I may buy some of the fanatik baits to try out they're not horribly expensive, that's kind of been my logic on most soft plastics most are cheap enough it hasn't seemed worth it to me to make them. But it has crossed my mind on for some things. I do use jewel sculpins which are a good bait, but I like the more paddle tail design on the urkraine ones better and would like to see how they work. I've got some of the ukraine chubarashka swing jig type things which are actually a good design. The ones I have I like as they're like a biffle head jig that I can change the hook type/size on easily for using a multitude of baits with. I really like them for small craw/creature baits.

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Post by Doc Arroyo » 07 Jun 2018, 17:05

I have thought about it quite a bit lately. My favorite plastic worm is a 6" Culprit, and they quit making a specific color combo. It was the most effective worm I ever fished locally, and hand pouring it is they only way to get it. Problem is that I have not found a commercially available mold that matches a Culprit.

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Post by onthewater102 » 07 Jun 2018, 21:05

Pretty easy to make an open pour mold from an existing worm - check youtube. I loved culprits back in the day - for some reason I don't throw a std. texas rig very often anymore, dunno why really.
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Post by onthewater102 » 26 Jun 2018, 14:49

Since you posted that about the culprits I've tried to keep an eye out for them and I've yet come across anything. Closest I've found is a berkley powerbait worm mold but that's only a 4.5" and it has a much longer body section whereas culprits were mostly ribbon tail...actually, just found this today which is a lot closer to the culprit body:

https://www.barlowstackle.com/Do-It-CNC ... P3868.aspx

A few observations now that I've cast a bit, the synthetic stone needs to be surface coated in a thin layer of oil to get the same surface finish as a bait made out of an aluminum mold, which also helps to release the bait from the mold, but the price difference makes the stone molds so much more affordable. They need to be cleaned well when you first buy them, scrubbed down with an old toothbrush or something similar, as the machining dust will come off in your baits if you don't. Other than that thus far they're a great alternative to expensive aluminum molds.

Definitely worth the extra money for multi-cavity molds, even only making a personal-use volume it's a bit tedious to shoot the same mold 5 times in a row to get 1/2 a commercial bag worth of baits - certainly not worth it from a time perspective. Hasn't been an issue yet as I shoot 4 of 5 single cavity molds at a time and make a bunch of different baits, but if I were trying to resupply on just one bait it would take quite a long time. Open pour molds are a PITA to get just the right amount of plastic into before the plastic cools and starts pouring heavier, or the thinner sections overfill but the plastic is too cool to seep into the larger sections. I won't be buying any more pour-style setups unless there is no other mold available.
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Post by onthewater102 » 12 Jul 2018, 09:05

Wow - got a few molds from www.basstackle.com and all I can say is wow. They come with wing nuts and threaded studs so you don't need to fumble along with clamps.

Only issue was my 45ml injector isn't big enough to fill the larger 4 cavity molds...time for an upgrade I guess. Lesson to anyone learning from this, if you're buying an injector go for the larger 115ml or 120ml ones if you plan on shooting multi-cavity molds.
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Post by Jim » 13 Jul 2018, 08:29

Also check out Baitjunkys. https://www.baitjunkys.com/

The owner is a member here and a long time internet friend of mine. :beer:

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Post by Captain Ahab » 11 Sep 2018, 06:55

Breath deep as your pour LOL
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Post by onthewater102 » 11 Sep 2018, 17:18

I wonder which is worse, the carcinogens in the plastic or the unknown fumes off the lead pot?

Either way, I fashioned an exhaust hood for over my workbench. Not taking chances with that stuff just using a series of window fans.
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Post by onthewater102 » 23 May 2019, 14:20

Grabbed a food processor at Goodwill and used it to mince up all the beat up plastic left over from last year's fishing efforts. Worked perfectly. Even the salted plastics were easy to melt back down in an 1100 watt microwave. 1 minute, remove & stir, 40 seconds, remove & stir, 20 second intervals from there out removing & stirring after each.

Tried some silicone hand-pour molds from lureparts online, the plastic really needs to be on the extreme hot end of the spectrum in order to use those and not get tons of excess. Makes a dreamshot style dropshot worm out of a mold costing $10 and a $4 pyrex cup from walmart, pretty inexpensive way to get into it.
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Post by senkosam » 29 Aug 2019, 06:16

onthewater102 ,Have any photos of lures you've poured that have caught fish ?

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Post by onthewater102 » 03 Sep 2019, 11:21

I've got to get pics of the lures to go with each...but these were some of the year's highlights that I actually could find pictures of. All were on jigs/spinnerbaits that I made (poured/tied), with plastic trailers I poured on rods that I built.

5lb 11oz LMB Yellow perch bladed jig w/ golden chatter trailer
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4lb 4oz LMB Blue-black bladed jig w/ Black / Blue flake chatter trailer
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4lb 15oz LMB Golden shiner spinnerbait w/ golden 4.8" swimbait trailer (not sure why it's pinkish in the picture - it's the same color as the 1st pictured chatter trailer, this is actually my favorite all-around spinnerbait pattern)
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3lb 11oz SMB Silver baitfish bladed jig w/ smoke back/pearl belly fluke trailer
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Post by senkosam » 03 Sep 2019, 12:15

Very nice !!!

I've been pouring and designing my own plastics for over 10 years and love catching fish on them - far more than store bought overpriced lures. Here are a few, some which I designed, some of which catch most species of fish :
fat tail grub:
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mini-sticks:
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larger size:
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stubby tail grubs with more of a point:
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topwater lure made using a spoon as a mold:
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made sizes #11 and #1 copies of Uncle Josh Pork Frogs in plaster molds before they went out of business:
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made this super thin tailed minnow using a tipped floor tile:
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(cut out the shape with a box cutter blade and dipped the front half a few times to thicken the body. I catches everything!

Used the thin tails to fool around making these, attaching the parts with a candle flame:
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Swimbait molds from Lurecraft.com produce nice lures that bass attack:
design A:
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design B:
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