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PostPosted: 04 May 2018, 11:12 
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Up until now I'd just been interested in recycling used baits that are too chewed up to function, but I'm toying with just pouring my own from fresh plastic going forward.

I assume it's pretty straight forward making baits for summer use, look for more durable formulas and the heat will keep things flexible, but I fish a lot more during the cold water (55 degrees & under) season so I'm thinking I'm needing softer plastic formulas. Anyone out there find a good balance between flexibility and durability for this type of situation?



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PostPosted: 04 May 2018, 12:35 
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I haven't, but it's crossed my mind to. Being I fish a lot of creeks and rivers for smallies sculpins, and helgramites are a favorite of riverine smallies. There are these molds from ukraine that are used for fanatik baits one is a goby one another is the larve mold. Larve is pretty darn close to a helgramite and the goby would make a good sculpin.


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PostPosted: 04 May 2018, 14:21 
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I've got a few Ukrainian sourced molds...they make nice baits thus far! I started with them to remake keitechs that the perch and sunnies will nip the tail off & render the bait useless.

I found these for hellgrammites:

3" http://www.basstackle.com/3_Hellgrammite_p/562-kj-2.htm
2" http://www.basstackle.com/2_Hellgrammite_p/563-kj-2.htm

but at $69 or even $49 they are a lot more than the Ukrainian plasti-stone ones. Granted it's an apples and oranges comparison, cnc machined aluminum multi-cavity vs. cnc machined synthetic single-cavity. Instead I bought 50 of the baits on ebay for $15 which should hold me over for a while until I decide if I'm going to use enough to make it worth my while.



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PostPosted: 07 May 2018, 09:06 
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I don't know if I'd ever bother with the paddle tail type soft plastics, I've had good luck with the zoom fluke paddle tail baits. They're cheap enough to not make me think about bothering with making them. I may buy some of the fanatik baits to try out they're not horribly expensive, that's kind of been my logic on most soft plastics most are cheap enough it hasn't seemed worth it to me to make them. But it has crossed my mind on for some things. I do use jewel sculpins which are a good bait, but I like the more paddle tail design on the urkraine ones better and would like to see how they work. I've got some of the ukraine chubarashka swing jig type things which are actually a good design. The ones I have I like as they're like a biffle head jig that I can change the hook type/size on easily for using a multitude of baits with. I really like them for small craw/creature baits.


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PostPosted: 07 Jun 2018, 17:05 

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I have thought about it quite a bit lately. My favorite plastic worm is a 6" Culprit, and they quit making a specific color combo. It was the most effective worm I ever fished locally, and hand pouring it is they only way to get it. Problem is that I have not found a commercially available mold that matches a Culprit.


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PostPosted: 07 Jun 2018, 21:05 
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Pretty easy to make an open pour mold from an existing worm - check youtube. I loved culprits back in the day - for some reason I don't throw a std. texas rig very often anymore, dunno why really.



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PostPosted: 26 Jun 2018, 14:49 
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Since you posted that about the culprits I've tried to keep an eye out for them and I've yet come across anything. Closest I've found is a berkley powerbait worm mold but that's only a 4.5" and it has a much longer body section whereas culprits were mostly ribbon tail...actually, just found this today which is a lot closer to the culprit body:

https://www.barlowstackle.com/Do-It-CNC ... P3868.aspx

A few observations now that I've cast a bit, the synthetic stone needs to be surface coated in a thin layer of oil to get the same surface finish as a bait made out of an aluminum mold, which also helps to release the bait from the mold, but the price difference makes the stone molds so much more affordable. They need to be cleaned well when you first buy them, scrubbed down with an old toothbrush or something similar, as the machining dust will come off in your baits if you don't. Other than that thus far they're a great alternative to expensive aluminum molds.

Definitely worth the extra money for multi-cavity molds, even only making a personal-use volume it's a bit tedious to shoot the same mold 5 times in a row to get 1/2 a commercial bag worth of baits - certainly not worth it from a time perspective. Hasn't been an issue yet as I shoot 4 of 5 single cavity molds at a time and make a bunch of different baits, but if I were trying to resupply on just one bait it would take quite a long time. Open pour molds are a PITA to get just the right amount of plastic into before the plastic cools and starts pouring heavier, or the thinner sections overfill but the plastic is too cool to seep into the larger sections. I won't be buying any more pour-style setups unless there is no other mold available.



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PostPosted: 12 Jul 2018, 09:05 
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Wow - got a few molds from www.basstackle.com and all I can say is wow. They come with wing nuts and threaded studs so you don't need to fumble along with clamps.

Only issue was my 45ml injector isn't big enough to fill the larger 4 cavity molds...time for an upgrade I guess. Lesson to anyone learning from this, if you're buying an injector go for the larger 115ml or 120ml ones if you plan on shooting multi-cavity molds.



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PostPosted: 13 Jul 2018, 08:29 
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Also check out Baitjunkys. https://www.baitjunkys.com/

The owner is a member here and a long time internet friend of mine. :beer:

And guys, please post what you make, I'm always in the market to buy stuff for me and giveaways.



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PostPosted: 11 Sep 2018, 06:55 
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Breath deep as your pour LOL



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PostPosted: 11 Sep 2018, 17:18 
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I wonder which is worse, the carcinogens in the plastic or the unknown fumes off the lead pot?

Either way, I fashioned an exhaust hood for over my workbench. Not taking chances with that stuff just using a series of window fans.



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