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PostPosted: 06 Dec 2016, 00:32 
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I don't need the steps on this trailer but will put something like that on my Lowes.
A foot of snow has stopped me in my tracks. I have had other pressing fix me's to fix before I can get back on this trailer.
I now am amassing the items I will need to rig this boat with and I want to take it down to Phx so I can work on it with my grandkids seeing how they will end up with it they can do the work. if I can get the phones out of there hands and put some tools in them. lol
I will have to build a winch stand before I go but will wait for the weather to change a little first. This boat is so light ,125 lbs, that I don't believe I need to much to winch it on the trailer. So this picture is what I am thinking of using cant remember the name of it. Using the bow rope you can place it in this winch to pull the boat up and on the trailer. no reason to pull the regular winch line out and then have to crank it all back on the reel. this doesn't have a reel so saves a lot of cranking the strap back on the roller.


File comment: not sure what this is called but a rope of any length can be placed in to it and the wedge sides pinch the rope to winch a load.
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PostPosted: 06 Dec 2016, 06:43 
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I agree that your boat is light, but is that device any improvement over a regular winch?

A lightweight winch is pretty cheap, yet does it's job very well.

You could arrange to use your painter/bow rope in the winch if that is what you want to do.



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PostPosted: 06 Dec 2016, 15:50 
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Rich this is by no means a replacement for the standard boat winch. a separate bow tie down is required as this is not meant to hold a load, it is only a rope puller. Later I will go trampling through the foot of snow later today and get the name of this devise so it can be looked up properly for description and price by those interested.
Along the river here the boat launches don't really enter the river most people ride rafts down the river or the fishermen use drift boats, when launching them, heavy, boats a good winch is required to both launch and retrieve the boats as they will use their winches to balance/hold the boat as far back on the trailer as possible to launch then they have to drag the boat up and on to the trailer to retrieve so the winch is very important to accomplish this feat.
My little canoe is light enough, without a slick bottom, that an ole fart can move it around pretty easily, That the strap isn't necessary to hold the weight makes it a sliver in a wood seat, with this I only use the length of rope needed and it slips over the gismo right where it is needed, so the bow line (painters rope?) is all that is needed for rigging, no strap to fight with.
Well I will get dressed for the weather, 10 degrees and a foot of snow to find it and get the name off it. so will get back on here this evening if I don't fall asleep or pass out taking my winter gear off. lol



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PostPosted: 06 Dec 2016, 16:22 
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Don't go in the snow to get the name. Might be a variation on a ComeAlong or a Power Puller.
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PostPosted: 16 Dec 2016, 14:02 
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I had to wait for warmer day to melt the snow it was 50 yesterday and heading to -20 tonight, Wyoming weather. This is a link to the manufacture of the "skywinch" it has a short video of using this winch.


"skywinch" capacity of 350lbs for boats under 18'/1000LBS only, use with 1/2 inch solid braided rope, NOT for moving humans NOT for towing, Must use safety chains and tie down straps for towing.



http://greenfieldproducts.com/


My little tin boat will do fine with this boat winch I believe. Does anyone have any experiences with one of these, good or bad?



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PostPosted: 16 Dec 2016, 14:14 
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another link to greenfield skywinch as its known

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Greenfield-SKYWINCH



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PostPosted: 16 Dec 2016, 16:30 
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I like it!
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Greenfie ... lsrc=aw.ds

I guess I'd like to see one in action on a boat of my size (1652 G3). But, it does solve some of the issues that I have experienced.

My only negative observation is that the lever arm is much longer than a normal winch. One would have to be certain that their winch riser would accommodate the new device.

Price isn't too bad. Higher than a small regular winch, to be sure, but if it eliminated the ....strap-clipping-dance,.... It would be well worth it.

It does take two hands.... but I don't see that as a major issue, either.

I'd have to change out my painter/bow rope.The floating polyethylene rope that I presently use wouldn't "grab" in the gears, I think.

Since I often have my boat hook with me, if need be, I could hook the bow rope with the boat hook, and drag it inshore to be draped over the new winch. This device might keep me from having to jump back in and start the motor....and then drive the boat up the bunks.

PLEASE keep us posted if you buy it. However, at 20 degrees below, I don't think you'll have it on the water anytime soon.

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PostPosted: 16 Dec 2016, 16:36 
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I just wrote the manufacturer and asked if the crank arm must be circled around, or does it have ratcheting capability?

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PostPosted: 16 Dec 2016, 23:28 
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Rich it has to rotate, no ratcheting, turns only one way and has a release lever. then it will free wheel either way.
I bought a couple of these a year or so ago had one on the 10' lone star trailer, took it off because I am letting a buddy use the boat and I was afraid he may mess up, not strapping the bow down,so I put the old style back on for him to use. I didn't use it very often , but it did pick up the empty boat from the lawn and up and onto the trailer very easily. On a ramp I could drive the boat all the way on the trailer with out the winch.
The handle is about 9" I had mine a little farther away from the boat to stay out of the way of trolling motor when launching, and the handle did seem longer, better leverage, then a normal winch, maybe an inch? But being able to put the rope of any length on,is well worth having if your not to heavy, pulling 350lbs you can drag a pretty good size boat with the proper covered bunks on the trailer.
I originally bought these to use as a lifting devices for hauling gear up in trees, chainsaws, deer, easier then trying to hold a rope while using block and tackle, this will hold a vertical load as long as there is tension being applied could be dangerous if not done properly.



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PostPosted: 18 Dec 2016, 22:50 
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Here is the reply that I just received from Greenfield.. Hard working guy, replying in a Sunday evening.


Hi Rich-
Thanks for your interest in SkyWinch.
The current (original) model does not have gear/ratchet. It turns on a 1:1 ratio and works exactly as shown in the video.

We are currently developing a Heavy-Duty (geared/ratchet) version to be introduced sometime in 2017.
So far, the ratcheted model has handled very heavy loads, so the only limitations will be the strength of the rope.

We will also be offering a mounting system to use the original SkyWinch as an anchor retriever.
Please watch our site for information about both new products.
Thanks,
Wes



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PostPosted: 20 Mar 2017, 02:38 
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Well it finally warmed up enough I was able to get the back gates opened and the boat out of the back.
The sky winch works if you have a strain on it, with no weight or pressure the line will slip, hold the bitter end tight so it can get a bite on the line and it will pull till the line breaks, it needs a load to get a grip.
I like it, my boat weighs nothing, 110lbs, so I can pull it easily without the winch on level ground, once loaded it will be just right. I installed a turnbuckle as a safety to hold the bow while driving, along with a ring I made from two J bolts welded through the 1/2" bow eye, fashioned an oblong ring 1/2 thick 2"x5", I believe they had the painter line tied through this 1/2" rough nasty hole before.
To late for pictures tonight.
I've done a lot to get it street legal again so I can take the boat to the lake an see how it floats,well after I fire up the motors to make sure they all run, I'm not sure if the ice is gone at the lake yet.
Spent my down time this cold snowy season checking out places I can and will use this little boat.
The set up with the rollers may be just what is needed to launch this boat. Many places have no ramps, you must carry the boat to the water.
This high roller trailer is at a good height to manhandle the boat and will be nice in getting down the river embankments, and over the post and cables that surround the parking areas, I hope they don't ban people till after I'm dead and gone.
Will post some pictures soon.
With an irrigation controlled lake here, the level is dropped 20' in the winter and in a couple weeks it will be raised and I want to see what the canyon walls look like at the low water level, where fish will be in the summer. Not many nice days mostly high winds 50 60 mph gust so looking for the one good day to run up the canyon.
So first things first, lots more to do on the trailer, boat and the motors. Test the motors starting tomorrow, then a water test asap. pictures have to wait.



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PostPosted: 20 Mar 2017, 08:16 
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Sounds good. Glad I don't have to wait for weather so much as you do.

Be sure to take lots of pictures and depth readings when the lake is so low. You'll use them at full pool. Rich



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PostPosted: 20 Mar 2017, 11:32 
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I am going to up load some pictures while it warms up some outside. This is all in the rough stages it can all be fixed by a weldor with some power tools, paint will cover it all up.


File comment: the Grumman bow eye, nasty fitting to work with.
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File comment: the oblong ring thru bow eye, double wrapped the noose to keep it out of the winch and it will reduce the wear on the line I hope.
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File comment: 1/2" line run thru skywinch
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File comment: working on a safe way to keep tension on sky winch while clearing the ramp area
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PostPosted: 20 Mar 2017, 11:49 
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I got me an idea.
It's all heavy wall stuff and I got to put motors someplace safer then on a transom, laying in the camper or boat bottom while transporting them, but is trailers the place for it,
ahh I'll weld a hitch on it, and that will tie it to trailers .don't want stuff where it don't belong.


File comment: trash find, a heavy duty home made bike carrier, wonder what I can do with it.
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PostPosted: 29 Mar 2017, 23:40 
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well finally got to put some time in on the trailer, It has changed a little from when I started.


File comment: I think I should rewire the lites
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