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PostPosted: 15 Nov 2018, 01:32 

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The Yamaha is a 4 cylinder.

The Honda is a 3 cylinder.

ETEC, forget ETEC. (for a lot of reasons)

Don't discount Suzuki either.

I prefer Yamaha because I have experience with them. I've run tons of motors, 90% of tiller steered and under 150hp, except that one F225 Yamaha that went to the lake the other day. Brrr..

Anyway, the weights aren't much difference between Honda and Yamaha. Both are good motors. What's cheaper? I don't have MSRP's in front of me. Yamaha goes out of their way to make it user friendly from a servicing standpoint. Worth mentioning. The 4 cylinder is going to be smoother and quieter running than the 3 cylinder-and likely be slightly more responsive. I have run one and while not quite as smooth running as the F70, it is a very close second. On the F70, it's nearly impossible to know it's running unless you can hear the pee hole water hitting the lake below (at idle speed). The F50 isn't much different-well because it's the same engine (but different cylinder head). It's so quiet, in fact, that when you remove the cowling and start the engine, you can hear the injectors "ticking" at idle speed. I used to have a video of it and used to play it in slow-mo for giggles. Honda has a 2.08 lower unit. Yamaha has 1.85. Advantage: Honda with the lower unit. Higher gear ratio equals faster to develop RPM to get out of the hole, but at the same time it's probably required since the Honda has a smaller engine which likely develops a little less torque (typical of Honda to be honest) at lower engine speeds than the Yamaha does. Yamaha comes standard with PT&T. Honda is available without-which is why they list their weight as lighter. It's all marketing tactics. Does Honda have a dealer closeby? You already found the Yamaha...do you like that dealer? Are they fair with you? Those are considerations though honestly it's unlikely that you'll ever have to use any of the warranty on either a Honda or Yamaha.

Haven't looked into Tohatsu much, though I probably should. They've made a lot of changes in the last few years. Good looking motors.

Also haven't looked too much into merc, though I have a 40hp 4 stroke in the shop now that's JUST outside the warranty period, and the exhaust cover gasket is leaking water, peeing it into the lower pan, fills the pan up, then the motor is "drinking" it's own exhaust water. Motor's got like 9 hours use on it. 3 cylinder like the Yamaha, I assume the 50 is similar if not the same block. It does shake a little at idle but not a lot. Noticeable though. The Yamaha F50? Pretty close to silky smooth.


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PostPosted: 15 Nov 2018, 03:54 
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Well, I ended up going with the Yamaha F50 from the boat dealer (at an awesome price). I have friends who purchased boats at this place with fair treatment and price, and it made sense to deal with him, and have Alweld prep the boat for that motor. I can't wait to get it and GO FISHIN!. I got one or two quotes on a Honda, but it was a grand more than the Yammy. I already have trolling motor, batteries, and electronics. Can't wait!



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PostPosted: 15 Nov 2018, 10:39 
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Sounds wonderful. Northern GA. Are you able to catch fish all winter long?????

I have a Summer place near Knoxville, and it sounds pretty chilly.



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PostPosted: 15 Nov 2018, 10:47 

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The boat you're getting is just a tad bigger than my flat bottom, a 1650. With that 50 your boat should hum right along. I'd love to have the Yamaha 50 on mine. My 40 moves mine about 28 and the boat weighs quite a bit.


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PostPosted: 15 Nov 2018, 11:14 

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Awesome man! Would love to see pics of boat/motor setup.


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PostPosted: 15 Nov 2018, 11:20 
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Congrats. I see a lot of Yamaha OBs being used by guides and other experienced boaters. Must be a good reason.



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PostPosted: 15 Nov 2018, 22:42 
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richg99 wrote:
Sounds wonderful. Northern GA. Are you able to catch fish all winter long?????

I have a Summer place near Knoxville, and it sounds pretty chilly.


Well, truth is I hunt a lot during late Oct-Dec time frame, but I go fishing when I can in between trips to the deer lease. As long as it isn't really windy, I am in my kayak. When I get my tin boat, I'll go fishing a lot more. Cold doesn't bother me as much as wind. We get 4 seasons here, but lakes don't freeze or anything like that.

Edit to add: Florida is only a half-day drive away! North Florida, anyway. 8)



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PostPosted: 16 Nov 2018, 01:22 

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Congratulations. You'll love the rig I'm sure.

N. Georgia sounds like it is here. I fish year round. Local lakes are loaded with crappie during the 3 cool seasons which are also 2 of the 5 tornado seasons. Then the local rivers...I'll fish the rivers in the winter when it's cold, the lakes, just not enough to block that COLD wind. I can't do cold very well, and fishing the river is typically fast action, get a limit in minutes, stay another hour or two watch the Eagles, load up and go home-assuming my fingers can turn the key in the truck. Have had that happen a couple times. Sit on the hands for a while until feeling/strength comes back. "Cold" to me, is 40 degrees or less. Speaking of "cold", is snowed yesterday. Less than an inch. I hope that's the last of it for the rest of the winter! 1" is 3/4" too much. I do not hunt. Too many other people in the woods this time of year. I've been shot at before but a lady who mistook me for a deer. That's how "deer crazy" people are here, already had one hunter had his head and part of RH shoulder turned to pink mist this past weekend by a "hunter" who didn't identify the target before pulling the trigger....


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PostPosted: 16 Nov 2018, 11:28 
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Turbotodd....your profile doesn't show you location.

I'm in Houston for the "Winter". We got down to the high 20's the other night, which is seriously messed up for our "Semi-Tropical" location. We actually had a few snow flutters, too. But, it will be the 70's this weekend for the high. Love it!

richg99

p.s. We've been in Houston for 38 years now. In all of that time, I've seen Five "snowfalls" (all less than an inch or two). THREE of those FIVE were in the last few years.



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PostPosted: 16 Nov 2018, 23:48 
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Hmmm ... says he likes the Iggles, which implies PA or thereabouts, but 72032 is zip code for Conway AR - in which case maybe he means watching real eagles, not NFL Eagles. Whar ye from, Todd?



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PostPosted: 18 Nov 2018, 11:10 

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72032 is where I grow'd up. Not too far from there now but I did the early years in Nebraska on the river (parents lived on a boat 8 months out of the year). Raced go-karts in the summers AND winters, on the frozen lakes, although I won't do it now for sure since me & cold hate each other.

I hate snow, hate ice, hate cold. Hate hot too but I've been able to tolerate it and fish in triple digit temps out in the sun many many times, destroying the crappie population when everybody else is waiting for fall/winter/spring.

What's Red Eagles? All I see is hawks, balds, kites, mockingbirds and the little ones. Oh and those blamed owls that keep me up all night in the early spring....."who cooks for you".... :o


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I am all set on the platform now, now I need to collect the needed accessories. I have a Lowrance FF with 2D and DS to put on the trolling motor. I'll eventually upgrade the FF, but not now, going to wait for a sale on the new Humminbird G3N units. I also have PFDs, but am going to get a self-inflating one to wear all the time, since I mostly fish alone.
So, to make a list, I'm going to need:
registration and lettering (gotta pay the imperial state government their dang tax)
fire extinguisher
Air Horn in a can
Flare pistol (really? not sure about this one)
Cranking battery - Going with a new Duracell Ultimate
Some more lights for running, nav, and fishing. As an electrical engineer, I may get fancy with the LEDs for illumination and fishing.
Some kind of recovery ladder to get back in if I fall out. I'm a very strong swimmer, was a RC-trained lifeguard in my youth, but getting older ya know...
Anchor(s) and possibly a drift sock and maybe a drag chain
Rope (always need rope), and fenders, maybe, to keep from banging into pilings when fishing under bridges

The big purchase is a new trolling motor. Not sure how fancy I want to get here, and still researching, but the MK units with i-pilot and spot lock could be very useful. I'm just not sure I really need it, or want to spend that much. Probably go with something manual first.



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