1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

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1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

Post by FormerParatrooper » 10 Jul 2016, 17:00

Looks good so far. =D>
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Re: 1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

Post by Al U Minium » 11 Jul 2016, 07:19

oakchas wrote:Some progress...

I've stripped all I'm going to from the boat. and sanded the rest. Half of the boat is primed with an aluminum primer.

I repainted the trailer, remade the bunks, rewired the trailer and it's ready to go except for the bunk carpeting.

Rewiring the trailer was a pain. It's a tilt trailer, and the ground was weak to the back. I tried everything short of running a ground to each light.

I came up with a "5 buck solution;" a battery cable from the front of the trailer to the tilting portion (at the hinge), and lots of dielectric grease.

Pix next post, I'm resizing them to minimize bandwidth.
Dielectric grease is not conductive which means the electrical connection you are trying to achieve is being compromised by the grease applied. The attachment points should be clean metal to metal. After bolt up and final tightening, coat the connection with something to keep air and water out of the connection to prevent deterioration of the connection from oxidation and corrosion. This does not apply to aluminum conductors with anti-oxidant coatings as the connectors used displace the coating at the connection.

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Re: 1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

Post by oakchas » 11 Jul 2016, 08:02

Al U Minium wrote:
oakchas wrote:Some progress...

I've stripped all I'm going to from the boat. and sanded the rest. Half of the boat is primed with an aluminum primer.

I repainted the trailer, remade the bunks, rewired the trailer and it's ready to go except for the bunk carpeting.

Rewiring the trailer was a pain. It's a tilt trailer, and the ground was weak to the back. I tried everything short of running a ground to each light.

I came up with a "5 buck solution;" a battery cable from the front of the trailer to the tilting portion (at the hinge), and lots of dielectric grease.

Pix next post, I'm resizing them to minimize bandwidth.
Dielectric grease is not conductive which means the electrical connection you are trying to achieve is being compromised by the grease applied. The attachment points should be clean metal to metal. After bolt up and final tightening, coat the connection with something to keep air and water out of the connection to prevent deterioration of the connection from oxidation and corrosion. This does not apply to aluminum conductors with anti-oxidant coatings as the connectors used displace the coating at the connection.
You are correct, technically.

However, I've never had corrosion, nor a lack of sufficient contact when applying some grease to all the surfaces on equipment ranging from antique tractors and cars (with antiquated 6 volt systems) to late model earth moving equipment with 24 volt systems.

And then I coated everything heavily after the connection was made.

Back in the day, I just used Vaseline in place of fancy dielectric grease.

NEVER had a failure.

Just sayin'.

Oh, and here's a link to someone with more actual knowledge and tests of the notion if you're interested:

https://www.w8ji.com/dielectric_grease_v ... grease.htm

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Re: 1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

Post by oakchas » 12 Jul 2016, 16:50

Argh! I am really not happy with the 50/50 mix.

The bubbles that did pop ended up like fish eyes from hades.

I had to resort to 400 grit and "very fine" (red) scotchbrite.

Wet sanding done just before thunderstorms rolled thru.

Guess I can put on a heavier coat tomorrow, and hope it evens things out a bit.

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Re: 1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

Post by oakchas » 14 Jul 2016, 16:44

Got the second coat on today. Better coverage, no unburst bubbles, no fisheyes. A few runs. A few drips.

All in all, much better. Now I can go back to 600 grit and ultra fine scotchbrite.

Probably two more coats.

Painting on the vertical sides is a bit more of a challenge for runs and drips. But going much thicker to eliminate that doesn't allow the paint to cure. Unthinned Rustoleum doesn't seem to cure EVER.

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1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

Post by water bouy » 15 Jul 2016, 11:29

I like the layout you're going for. I may send you a 16 ft for the same treatment.
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Re: 1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

Post by oakchas » 15 Jul 2016, 11:56

water bouy wrote:I like the layout you're going for. I may send you a 16 ft for the same treatment.
Thanks but no thanks! One thing I've learned, and it's been said here before: "paint the thing and get out on the water and catch some fish!"

That said, I got another coat of gray on just now. .. thought I'd be able to wet and with 600 and ultra fine scotchbrite. NO.

Another round of 400 and very fine scotchbrite before this coat.

Am I trying to make a silk purse? Yeah, kinda.

Anyway, here's the latest coat:
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Just a couple more coats to go. Then some 1500, 2000 and a buffer over the whole thing. Then wax and put on the trailer.

I hope there's some good fall fishin'!

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Re: 1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

Post by oakchas » 16 Jul 2016, 14:00

Today was spent with maroon (very fine, not ultra fine) scotchbrite followed by 600 grit wet sanding and a wash down with simple green.

Still gonna take two more coats
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Bummer.

Then I can unmask and start fine sanding and polish. Sigh.

I still think it'll be a good 14 foot boat.... and a lot better than the 100 footer it started out as.

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Re: 1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

Post by oakchas » 20 Jul 2016, 12:45

Another coat of gray today. Maybe it won't require another.

I'll find out by wet sanding with 1200 grit. If that goes well, I'll go to 2000 grit. Then, unmask and polish. If not, one more coat. NO MAS!

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Re: 1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

Post by oakchas » 22 Jul 2016, 12:30

Okay!

Gray sanded to 600, three small areas to touch up. One dent, and a couple of rivet heads.

Un masked:
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The masked lines came pretty clean. A little bleed where there were some prop gouges in the transom.

Two delaminations of paint on the black.

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These are no bigger than a quarter. I will sand them back, reprime with etching primer, I'll hit the rivets and dent on the gray as well, brush some paint and sand those spots.

Masking tape, even "delicate surface" removable tape and hot sun for more than a couple of weeks makes for very difficult unmasking. Simple green spray cleaner helped with peeling the tape. Mineral spirits cleaned up the adhesive.

It was a couple of hours to unmask it all.

I'll sand the black to 1200, and polish it out after fixing the delams.

Carpet comes today plus bunk carpet.

Hope to have it on the trailer by the first of next week.

YAY!

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1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

Post by oakchas » 25 Jul 2016, 11:05

primed spots:
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And, someone came by to inspect the progress, cute blue tail!
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1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

Post by oakchas » 06 Aug 2016, 13:45

Okay, so... I touched up the few spots that were re-primed. Wet sanded them down to 2000 grit.

I started buffing out the transom and and got it done and some of the the port side. I'm using some old Turtle Wax buffing compound (paste) that I had around. This is not my first choice for buffing compound with a random orbit sander polisher... but it's doing the job, and it's not hurting anything. After I get the buffing done, I plan to polish with polishing compound, and then waxing.

Just having done the research on waxing a freshly painted item (car/boat, whatever), there's a lot of talk about not doing it. "paint has to off gas," and all that... If 90+ degree days and sunshine won't sufficiently bake the paint... Surface temps on the boat skin have been over 125 degrees... I don't know what will...I'm gonna wax it.

I carpeted the bunks on the trailer a few days ago... and I'm getting anxious to get it back on the trailer to start working on the interior.

This has taken much longer than I wanted it to; but I think in the end, it will have been worth it.

pix soon.

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1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

Post by FormerParatrooper » 06 Aug 2016, 20:22

When your done, you can look at it with pride of a job well done and enjoy it more.
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Re: 1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

Post by oakchas » 08 Aug 2016, 09:04

Rubbing out is done. A $70 6inch random orbital sander/buffer from harbor freight made the job easy and tolerable. Less expensive than a porter cable (by 1/2), it does a good job. Not as good as the cyclo I used to own, but goodenuf.

So, it's flatter than a show boat, and shinier than a flat black rat rod.

Its got orange peel, less than a Sunkist orange, much more than a Steinway.

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Polishing its next, then wax. Have to wait for dusk before polishing. Just like I had to get up at dawn tho do the rubbing compound.

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Re: 1966 MirroCraft 3614 Project

Post by derekdiruz » 08 Aug 2016, 09:26

I like it. Your work is looking great and paying off!

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